Interview 採訪：Law Yuk-mui/ 羅玉梅, Liza Chan/ 陳曉盈
Editing 編輯、整理：Law Yuk-mui/ 羅玉梅
English Translation 英譯 : Winnie Chau/ 周潁榆
Transcription 謄錄: Janie Chan Tsang/ 陳錚
Hong Kong/ 香港
Samson Cheung Choi-sang dreamt of being a farmer, bus drive, football player and geographer but ended up graduating with a Business Administration Degree. Although he couldn’t live in the countryside as he had wished, he thankfully enjoys looking at the sea every day. His creative works address the sea and the interaction between nature and non-nature.
The Library: Let’s start with your recordings.
Samson Cheung: I have recorded a lot of happenings. This may be related to my photography practice. During the Umbrella Movement, I took photographs for United 
Social Press for reasons I couldn’t quite explain. I was a bit lazy but I would like to support this event by contributing a small part. But what could I do? Take photographs! At the outset, I hadn’t thought about making sound recordings at all.
The Library: Which means you didn’t have a press pass?
Samson Cheung: No, I didn’t have one. That indeed required some courage. It was very close physically and there was jostling. When a police baton struck, I got to know how to dodge.
The Library: Later, why did you pick up the recorder?
Samson Cheung: As I lost my camera afterwards, I couldn’t shoot anymore. Besides, my view towards the event started to change. As you know, the middle stage of the Umbrella Movement was stagnant. To be very honest, I didn’t know what to shoot. There were people playing, there were some reading in Mong Kok… After all, I am not a journalist. I didn’t want to turn photography into a job, shooting day and night. So, I stopped.
The Library: Was your first recording in Admiralty?
Samson Cheung: Yes. Sometimes, I would stay overnight in Admiralty. I have always wanted to record birds’ twittering, so I recorded birds’ twittering in Admiralty. Yet, the most memorable one among all clips is the recording of throwing pebbles. At first, I only wanted to walk into that tunnel (the tunnel on Connaught Road Central), as I had never been able to walk in a road tunnel freely. At the start, I heard leaves rustle and bob up and down. It was very crisp. I found the space very special and thus I tried to throw pebbles. Actually, throwing pebbles was, in some way, to vent my emotions, because I really didn’t know what I could do. It was like when you drink, you take the opportunity to get drunk as a release.
Throwing Pebbles Inside the Tunnel
07:30AM , 11/22/2014, Connaught Road Central
Later, I would like to record some iconic sounds, such as ‘Gau Wu’ . The day before I recorded the ‘Gau Wu’ clip, there had been a lot of jostling in Mong Kok. That day, I went there in the same frame of mind I would have when I took photographs. I went straight ahead and got very close. When the protesters and the police pushed each other, they ran into the iron gates of the shops and made noises… I thought I had recorded a lot of things, but it turned out I had pressed the wrong button and couldn’t capture anything.
The Library: You’ve taken photographs and then made sound recordings. What do you think are the differences?
Samson Cheung: Actually, the biggest difference is the change of the whole movement. Not until it reached the stage around ‘Gau Wu’.took place, did certain sounds appear. The previous chants, such as ‘Down with C.Y. Leung’, ‘Down with 689’ or ‘I want true universal suffrage’, didn’t interest me that much, not until the ‘Gau Wu Revolution’ took place which I found interesting: the sound of people who pretended to have dropped coins and people who echoed the TV commercials outside Mong Kok Broadway Cinema, shouting ‘Siu Laa Baa’ (small trumpet or speaker, also a euphemism for a Cantonese explicit). All these happened after the clearance.
Gau Wu–Mind Your Step’
03:40AM, 11/29/2014, Mong Kok
00:29AM, 11/29/2014, Argyle Street, Mong Kok
Freedom, Moses, Little Speaker
08:23PM, 11/28/2014, Mong Kok
The Library: It’s as if your own voice had become a tool of resistance?
Samson Cheung: Right. What makes it interesting is that those people were very excited. Such excitement was a bit like scoring a goal in a football match, where the spectators cheer excitedly to create sound of a sea of people.
The Library: Be it photography or recording, what influence do you think these experiences have brought to you?
Samson Cheung: Honestly, not a great influence. I don’t know how to put it; this isn’t something that I would know in one or two years. I need to look back in a few years’ time. It’s like taking photographs, when I look back now after the Movement, it feels strange. It feels a bit far off.
The Library: This means the Movement seems to have happened a long time ago? What about recording?
Samson Cheung: Yes. Recording feels a bit closer. It may be because it was relatively recent, or that the recordings straddles a longer duration of time. Photos are like temporary memories; as for sound, I don’t even know what it is. And I have no idea at all why people could have come up with things like pretending to have dropped coins. Hong Kong people have an agility of mind. They could derive many slogans from the film trailers on the streets of Mong Kok in no time. Yet, it’s precise that they fail to achieve what they want ultimately, i.e. how can we deal with those issues for the political reform? To me, this is a very big question mark.
 United Social Press, or ‘USP’, was founded by a group of freelance photographers to report socio-political issues through photo journalism.
 ‘Gau Wu’ (Chinese: 鳩嗚) is a homophonic word of “shopping” in Mandarin (購物 gòu wù) .
 Protesters intentionally crossed the road at the green light and pretended to have dropped coins. They stayed on the crossing and shouted slogans.
張才生: 我錄了很多即興的東西，這可能和我拍照有關。雨傘運動期間我幫「社媒」拍照，但為甚麼去拍照，我自己都不知怎麼說好。我有點懶惰，但又想支持這件事， 為這件事出一分力，那我可做些甚麼呢？那就拍照吧! 一開始我是完全沒有想過要錄音的。
07:30AM , 11/22/2014, 中區干諾道中
03:40AM, 11/29/2014, 旺角
00:29AM, 11/29/2014, 旺角亞皆老街
08:23PM, 11/28/2014, 旺角
張才生: 錄音感覺會近一點， 可能因為時間上相對近一些，又可能是錄音記錄較長的時間。照片似是暫時的回憶，而聲音我甚至不知道是甚麼。我更不知道為甚麼人們可以想到「扮跌錢」這些事情，香港人腦筋轉得很快，很快便跟著旺角街頭的電影預告想到很多口號，但偏偏最終想要的東西做不到。即是政改那些問題，可以怎樣呢？對我來說，這是一個很大的問號。
社會聯合媒體（United Social Press，USP），簡稱「社媒」，由一群自由攝影師組成。以圖片新聞為方式，報導社會時政議題。
Glorious Days, Harmonica, Tempo/ 光輝歲月口琴拍子
04:03AM , 11/29/2014, Yau Ma Tei/ 油麻地
The Trash Can/ 垃圾桶
01:07AM, 11/29/2014, Mong Kok/ 旺角
(Please note that the contents contain language that may be offensive./ 內容含有粗言穢語，敬請注意｡)
A Harmonica Song before the Clearance/ 清場前的口琴
10:35AM, 12/11/2014, Admiralty/ 金鐘
The Tunnel on Connaught Road Central/ 干諾道中行車隧道